I'll make it worth your while. Mjoll: "Maven. How's the criminal underworld treating you this fine day? You couldn't touch me if you wanted to. Now I suggest you turn around and rattle someone else's cage before you get hurt.
One day, you'll slip up and your Imperial friends won't be there to catch your fall. Vulwulf: "Maven! So good to see you again. Hoist a flagon and celebrate with me! When you're standing downwind of me. Maven: "I'm telling you, Vulwulf, it's the investment you've been waiting for.
What better way to help the cause than to put weapons into the hands of young Nord warriors dying for their homeland? You're right! I'll do it If Riften is taken by the Imperial Legion during the Civil War questline and Maven becomes Jarl, she will have the following conversations with her court:. Hemming: "There's still the matter of the prisoner to discuss. Now, his family is willing to contribute handsomely if we release him.
Perhaps I made the wrong choice installing you as steward. The execution will proceed as planned. Maven: "Hemming, have you dispatched that letter I gave you yesterday? If I need to light a few fires in order to get what we need to defend this place from the Stormcloaks, so be it.
Laila: "Maven! Always a pleasure to receive you. What can I help you with today? I wanted to discuss the protection of my shipments. An entire caravan shipment of your mead taken by Imperial soldiers. What of it? We lost three soldiers in that attack. A sad day for Riften. To be brief, I need compensation for the lost shipment.
Since Riften was responsible for it, Riften should pay for it. You'll have compensation for your loss. Maven: "Any word about our little problem in the Ratway? I'm not about to jeopardize this position for a bunch of low-life thugs. Maul: "My agents are telling me that we've appropriated the caravan from Hammerfell Just see to it the items are secured and the rest disposed of properly this time.
Maven: "Why are the potions I requested not completed? The components for those elixirs are quite volatile and in some cases, very dangerous to handle. I must take care. When I ask for something I expect results, and I expect them immediately. Sorry, milady. They will be completed. Maven has a significant amount of unused dialogue, meant to be heard in an attack on Riften as part of the Stormcloak questline.
However, this battle never occurs, so the lines are never heard. The first exchange would have occurred upon entering Mistveil Keep in the attack with Galmar Stone-Fist and the other Stormcloak soldiers. Maul: "Halt in the name of the Jarl! After Maven's surrender, Laila Law-Giver would be initiated the following conversation: [1].
Laila: "Ahhh It's good to be home. I've left a few surprises for you to discover. And I've brought an army to give you a going away parade. Come, there is much to be done. Alternatively, in the event of an Imperial victory, a similar conversation will occur, this time between Maven, Laila, and Legate Rikke Strangely, Rikke's lines are voiced by and credited to Galmar.
Maven: "I think I'll like living here. So tell me, what's the price for a woman's integrity these days? And we still could be.
Evidenced by the men and women who fought and died bravely today. For some odd reason she is to be found in the Bee n Barb, upstairs on the landing and sat in a dark corner, near one of the bedroom doors. Remember to use the compass. As for your housecarl, she ought be home waiting for you. May 18, Dagmar Defender of the Bunnies of Skyrim.
Maven's routine changes once she becomes Jarl. She should be on the throne at Mistveil Keep or in her bedroom there. She can also be found at the Thalmor Embassy during the Diplomatic Immunity quest.
After a two-hour breakfast, her busy day begins with a visit to one of her many businesses, the Black-Briar Meadery , to check up on brewmaster Indaryn and the other employees. At 4pm she browses the marketplace in the town center until 6pm when she returns home for a two-hour dinner. Her entire evening is spent at the Bee and Barb, until she finally heads back to her luxurious bedroom at midnight. There are only three exceptions to this routine: during the quest Dampened Spirits when she will stay hidden on the second floor of the Bee and Barb and hand out orders to you, during Diplomatic Immunity when she will be one of the guests at the Thalmor Embassy , and during the Thieves Guild quest Under New Management when she will show up in the Cistern of the Ragged Flagon and oversee your initiation.
If she is appointed jarl, Maven will move into Mistveil Keep with Hemming and Maul and follow a different routine befitting her new station.
She sleeps in the jarl's chambers between midnight and 8am then heads downstairs and breakfasts with the rest of her court for two hours. She then takes the throne and stays there until her bedtime, interrupted only by two-hour meals at 1pm and 7pm. If she is jarl, she will not turn up at the Thalmor Embassy during Diplomatic Immunity, although she will still turn up at the Ragged Flagon during Under New Management.
Clearly the most influential citizen in Riften, Maven has the attitude to match, both when talking to the citizens and when talking to you. When you approach her she will greet you with disgust, saying: "I presume you're bothering me for a good reason? What is it? Nothing gets done without my approval in this city. I have the Jarl's ear, and the guards in my pocket. Anyone makes trouble for me and I pay a visit to the Thieves Guild. Make me angry and I contact the Dark Brotherhood. You'd do well to remember that the next time you make such a stupid observation.
Our connections with the Empire and within Skyrim make for a perfect fit. I dare say the Guild owes its survival as much to my family as it does to its own people. When asking for a handout, Snilf will receive a: "Never. Now move aside. I've always been in charge around here. Has a pleasant sound to it, wouldn't you say?
At the beginning of Loud and Clear , Brynjolf will introduce you to Mercer Frey who will put your skills to the test with a job that even Vex couldn't do—breaking into Goldenglow Estate.
He will explain: "Goldenglow Estate is critically important to one of our largest clients. However, the owner has suddenly decided to take matters into his own hands and shut us out. He needs to be taught a lesson. Brynjolf will provide you with the details. It's owned by some smart-mouth wood elf named Aringoth.
We need you to teach him a lesson by burning down three of the estate's hives and clearing out the safe in the main house. That important client Mercer mentioned would be furious if you did. The Guild depends on an arrangement of influential people to keep things running smoothly.
Without them at our backs, we'd be in serious trouble. When you ask what should be done with Aringoth, Brynjolf will reveal the name of the client: "Maven prefers that Aringoth remains alive, but if he tries to stop you from getting the job done, kill him. The Guild has a lot riding on this. Don't make me look foolish by mucking it up. Maven Black-Briar.
Burn all the hives and she'd have to import honey for Black-Briar Meadery which would cut into her profits. We kept an eye on Goldenglow Estate to make sure the honey kept flowing. If the workers had a dispute, we'd rough them up. If competitors tried to buy honey from Aringoth, we'd steal the shipments.
In return, Maven allowed us to extort Aringoth and bring in a huge payout. Nothing happens in Riften without Maven's consent. One word from her and you could spend the rest of the fourth era in prison.
However, should you talk to Aringoth inside Goldenglow, you will find that he is quite scared: "I didn't think Maven or Mercer would allow me to get away with this, but I had little choice. If I do, I may as well cut my own throat. Take it! Once the new owner finds out I gave in, I'm as good as dead anyway. If you did it wrong, he will say: "You've made a mess of things and Maven's furious. I told you not to burn more than three of the hives! I've smoothed things over with her for now, but you can forget your cut.
What's that idiot thinking? He has no idea the extent of Maven's fury when she's been cut out of a deal, but I'm certain he'll find out. If only this parchment had the buyer's name instead of this odd symbol. Any idea what that might be? Well, I'll check my sources and speak to Mercer. But for now, you're off to speak to Maven Black-Briar. She asked for you by name. When you ask him what Maven wants, Brynjolf will respond: "That's between you and Maven and I prefer to keep it that way.
Just keep your ears open and your mouth shut and you'll do fine. Maven's business dealings usually involve quite a bit of gold for her people. I suggest you head right over. Inside the newly opened Honningbrew Meadery near Whiterun stands confident owner Sabjorn , who will sell his produce saying: "Honningbrew uses only the finest natural honey, not that sludge you'll find at Goldenglow Estate.
When she sees you, her greeting will differ depending on your efforts back at Goldenglow. If you managed to screw it up, she will be disgusted and say: "So you're the one that burned down Goldenglow Estate. Do you have any idea what that little stunt you pulled is going to cost me? I'm amazed you even bothered to show your face here. You don't look so impressive.
The table below displays all possible variations and the conditions: [ verification needed — needs exact conditions for each line of dialogue ]. After that, you can ask her if she has no faith in the Thieves Guild: "Faith? I don't have faith in anyone. All I care about is cause and effect. Did the job get done and was it done correctly. There's no gray area. This is an important job. I have a competitor called Honningbrew Meadery that I want to put out of business.
I also want to know how they managed to get the place up and running so quickly. He'll fill you in on all the details. Been a thorn in my side for the last few years now. In only a few short years, he's taken that bile he calls mead to market and a chunk of my profits with it! I can't imagine where he found the gold to take it to market so quickly. With Sabjorn in prison, his meadery will be forced to close. Then I swoop in and take over the place. No more competition. You butcher this job and you'll be sorry.
Sabjorn could use this interruption to his advantage and collect a larger share of the market. I can't have that. In Whiterun , unhappy brewmaster Mallus Maccius will share the clever plan about poisoning the brewing vats and will finish with: "Maven and I spent weeks planning this. All we need is someone like you to get in there and get it done. If Sabjorn ends up in jail, she's going to take over his meadery. And guess who gets to run the Black-Briar Meadery in Whiterun?
You're looking at him. After the deed is done and Sabjorn is behind bars, ask Mallus for permission to look at Sabjorn's books and he will say: "So, Maven wants to hunt down Sabjorn's private partner, huh? When you mention the presence of Hamelyn in the basement, he will admit: "I thought it would be better to leave some of the details out of our previous discussion. Didn't want to risk you walking away from the job. Besides, you've done Maven a favor getting rid of him and saved me from wasting coin hiring someone else to do it later.
That was Maven's part of the deal. She's put me in charge of keeping the mead flowing, so that's exactly what I'm going to do. If you're in the area and you ever need anything fenced, you just let me know. Back in the Bee and Barb, Maven will be waiting for you, greeting you with an impatient: "I trust you have good news for me. If you failed, you will get a good talking-to before Maven will take the promissory note from you.
Whether or not you succeeded or failed, Maven will take the note from you and be annoyed: "This doesn't tell me much. The only thing that could identify Sabjorn's partner is this odd little symbol. You should bring this information to the Thieves Guild immediately. There's also the matter of your payment. I believe you'll find this more than adequate for your services. How unfortunate for him. Now you're beginning to see how our little system works.
Maven sent word that you discovered something else while you were out there. Something important to the Guild? First Aringoth and now Sabjorn. Someone's trying to take us down by driving a wedge between Maven and the Guild.
Should you pay Mallus Maccius a visit in his new brewery, he will happily say: "Maven Black-Briar always remembers her friends. That's why I'm in charge of the place. The next quest, Scoundrel's Folly , takes you to an angry Mercer Frey who has been equally unable to identify the strange symbol. He concludes: "It would seem our adversary is attempting to take us apart indirectly by angering Maven Black-Briar. Very clever.
You are to seek him out and shake the truth out of him, in an attempt to identify who bought Goldenglow. Before leaving for Solitude, pay a visit to Maven and tell her about current events. It turns out she has been in contact with Mercer: "Yes, we spoke at length while you were in Whiterun dealing with our meadery situation. I hope for all your sakes you find out who's behind this supposed 'plot.
Now, mysteriously, some sort of anonymous adversary shows up and takes the Estate out of my hands. I take care of my friends. After your lengthy trek through the Empire Company Warehouse and Brinewater Grotto, stubborn Argonian Gulum-Ei will finally be scared enough to tell the truth about how he acted as middleman in the sale of Goldenglow, as well as who was behind it: Karliah , the thief responsible for murdering Mercer Frey's predecessor, Gallus.
And when you speak to Mercer, tell him I'm worth more to him alive. But now that I know who she is, I'd say she's trying to hit the Thieves Guild where it hurts. She's been using the Guild to keep the Estate under her thumb.
If the owner cuts the Guild out of the picture, he's cutting Maven out of the picture If I was Maven, I'd blame the Guild for weakening and not being able to handle the place.
For the Guild to survive, they need Maven's support. This Karliah must have spent a lot of time and resources planning this. When Mercer betrays you at the end of Speaking With Silence, the conversation between Mercer and Karliah makes it clear who bought Goldenglow Estate and funded Honningbrew Meadery, simply to lure Mercer out in the open due to the rage of Maven Black-Briar, as she explains it inside Snow Veil Sanctum: "'To ensure an enemy's defeat, you must first undermine his allies.
Clever lass. During the quest The Pursuit , Brynjolf will ask you to investigate Mercer's residence, Riftweald Manor , for clues on Mercer's location. A gift from the Black-Briars after they kicked the previous family out He never stays there, just pays for the upkeep on it. Hired some lout by the name of Vald to guard the place. Brynjolf will then elaborate on Vald , starting the concurrent quest Vald's Debt : "A real piece of work, that one.
Mercer's holding something over his head, keeping him loyal. Talk to Vex. She used to know him very well I mean, you are asking him to betray Mercer Frey.
Your best bet would be to erase his debt with Maven Black-Briar. If you talk to her, she might be able to give you the details. When Maven is confronted with this demand, she will be less than impressed: "Vald? Why would you want to help that idiot? He owes me a steep debt. In fact, he's lucky all I did was force him to work for Mercer. Vald was tasked with getting it here safely and it ended up at the bottom of Lake Honrich. If you can locate the quill and return it to me, something Vald was too stupid to do himself, I'll consider the debt satisfied.
I'm sure you can understand how useful that would prove in a business situation, especially where signatures were involved. So if you're getting any ideas about selling it to someone else or keeping it, you'll find it would hold little value.
The idiot got lost in the mist and ran his boat right over some rocks, sending it straight to the bottom. He's too stupid to remember where he was, and any attempt I've made to find it in the past has been unsuccessful. I'd check under the water near one of the small islands in the lake. Perhaps you should start at the docks and work your way out towards Goldenglow Estate. When found and located, return to Maven with the Quill of Gemination and she will say: "Really?
I wrote that off a long time ago. Well, I suppose I need to fulfill my end of the bargain. Give this document to Vald. It frees him from the debt, but I never want to see him in Riften again.
How did ya' talk her into this? Never mind, I don't care. I'm just glad I don't gotta' work for Maven anymore. The only quest that causes any harm to her persona is to go see a man about a horse. Where can I speak to Maven Black-Briar? Should I help Maven Black-Briar? Can Maven Black-Briar be exiled? What race is Maven Black-Briar? What is a black briar? What happens if I tell Maven about frost?
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